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20th Apr 2004 | 07:51

Poll #281478 Conservative Party election stunt

Regarding their massive mailshot:

I got a letter from Michael Howard MP
3(7.0%)
I have filled in the postal vote forms
0(0.0%)
Routine postal voting is a bad idea
0(0.0%)
I am going to vote Tory
0(0.0%)
I am going to vote New Labour
0(0.0%)
I am going to vote Liberal Democrat
0(0.0%)
I am going to vote Weird Shit
0(0.0%)
None of your business
0(0.0%)
I sent the tories some money
0(0.0%)
I sent the tories a nastygram
0(0.0%)
I didn't get a letter
0(0.0%)
Tickybox
1(2.3%)

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Comments {14}

Ross

from: crazyscot
date: 20th Apr 2004 01:08 (UTC)

ah, the humble pre-paid envelope... so wonderfully option-creating...

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The Flat Atom Society

Routine Postal Voting

from: ghoti
date: 20th Apr 2004 01:24 (UTC)

I'm fairly sure it's not what you meant, but for some people postal voting is really their best option,l every year. I'm thinking mostly of old peoples homes, where large proportions of the residents can't get to vote. There have been several cases in this sort of situation where the designated proxy voter for the home has basically just used the votes as his own votes, sometimes even voting without the knowledge of the voter, iyswim. I can quite see the value of routine postal voting for some people.

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Tony Finch

Re: Routine Postal Voting

from: fanf
date: 20th Apr 2004 02:07 (UTC)

I meant routine for a large proportion of people. Of course there are reasons for it in some cases, but the more it is used the more it will be abused in the way you describe. It's also more vulnerable to other kinds of fraud than a proper secret ballot.

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The Flat Atom Society

Re: Routine Postal Voting

from: ghoti
date: 20th Apr 2004 07:59 (UTC)

Yes, I thought that was probably what you meant.

I don't think my views on the issue are sufficiently developed to have a definite opinion.

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Re: Routine Postal Voting

from: hsenag
date: 20th Apr 2004 02:26 (UTC)

This article suggests that even postal votes can be abused in this situation.

In general, free availability of postal votes violates our right under the European Convention on Human Rights to a secret ballot, since someone can coerce or bribe you into obtaining a postal vote and then filling it in with them watching.

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sphyg

from: sphyg
date: 20th Apr 2004 02:56 (UTC)

Gosh, am I the only New Labour non-tickybox freak?

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Rachel Coleman

from: rmc28
date: 20th Apr 2004 03:55 (UTC)

I've reused the envelopes though: they're quite pretty and similar in colour to my reuse labels :)

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from: the_aviator
date: 20th Apr 2004 04:38 (UTC)

An awful lot of people here seem to want Chatshow Charlie in power. If my town council is anything to go by, then a LibDem government would see that the NHS budget will be entirely allocated to pensioners and that the military will be ordered to win hearts and minds by planting garish flowers in all the roundabouts of Iraq.

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The Flat Atom Society

from: ghoti
date: 20th Apr 2004 08:00 (UTC)

That's a *fabulous* use of the military!

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Pete

from: pjc50
date: 20th Apr 2004 12:54 (UTC)

I used to be a card-carrying LD, but I gave them up after (1) Rupert Moss-Eckhart (2) finally deciding that they didn't realise the problems with Europe and (3) their support for software patents in the European parliament.

It's going to be either Green or UKIP for me (both voted against SW patents), and I'm currently leaning towards UKIP.

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Michelle

from: chess
date: 20th Apr 2004 15:23 (UTC)

Yeek. The UKIP sounded like the BNP when they were talking to us in our area...

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Pete

from: pjc50
date: 20th Apr 2004 16:32 (UTC)

Yeah, that's the problem with them; a lot of their supporters are in it for the xenophobia rather that objections with the particular structure of Europe.

There's no easy electoral way to say, "I want a Europe with free movement of people and goods, but without the democratic deficits in the Commission and the Council," or "why is the constitutional convention so bloody elitist?" or "stop the agricultural subsidy madness, it's wasting our money AND impoverishing the Third World".

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Monument

from: marnanel
date: 20th Apr 2004 11:00 (UTC)

I have to vote postally these days, though, so my answer isn't significant.

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