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3rd Jun 2008 | 14:29

Oh god. I nearly puked when I got a reply from a Notes user just now. Between the top-posted reply and the text from my original message were my message's headers, formatted like this:

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  |Tony Finch <fanf2@cam.ac.uk>                                                                                                                      |
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  |(censored)                                                                                                                                        |
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  |postmaster@hermes.cam.ac.uk                                                                                                                       |
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  |03/06/08 15:05                                                                                                                                    |
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  |(censored)                                                                                                                                        |
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  |Tony Finch <fanf2@hermes.cam.ac.uk>                                                                                                               |
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Comments {10}

Simon Tatham

from: simont
date: 3rd Jun 2008 14:38 (UTC)

Yikes, that's even worse than the (long since retired) Notes installation at my company used to do. At least ours had one ASCII-art block instead of one per header.

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Sally

from: atreic
date: 3rd Jun 2008 14:54 (UTC)

Yes, I know. Don't get me started ranting about notes

I ♥ prayer

Edited at 2008-06-03 02:54 pm (UTC)

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Davefish

from: davefish
date: 3rd Jun 2008 14:55 (UTC)

Indeed, Notes is a big pile of stink.

You didn't do so bad either, you've managed to not get sections where it breaks the (censored) arbitarially to different linewidths. Which isn't so bad the first time, but then you reply a few times, and it needs to shorten all the lines again, so arbitary line-shortening routine raises its head again.

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Andrew Mobbs

from: mobbsy
date: 3rd Jun 2008 15:54 (UTC)

a Notes user
The correct term is 'victim'

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The Bellinghman

from: bellinghman
date: 3rd Jun 2008 16:11 (UTC)

Notes is notable for being yet another example that the Microsoft solution (to whatever problem) is rarely the worst. It's a really, really bad player in the open systems world. I assume that Notes emails, when kept within the groupware walled garden, are actually not as awful looking as they are when they escape, and that it's just an arrogant refusal to be nice to 'foreign' users. I can't image they look that bad to other Notes users.

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Shae Erisson

I use notes at work...

from: shae
date: 3rd Jun 2008 16:44 (UTC)

Inside the walled garden, the headers aren't as bad, but top posting is rampant, and it includes all attachments, inline pictures and everything else when replying. So... it's still quite bad.

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Barry

Re: I use notes at work...

from: hobnobs
date: 3rd Jun 2008 22:49 (UTC)

I *hated* dealing with email issues on a notes platform when I worked for a company that used it (with Domino/AS400) as the default mail platform. I have never looked back since I had the misfortune of being "downsized" from there and ended up in a Notes-free environment. I'd rather rivet my hand to a server than return to using and maintaining a notes platform.

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sonicdrift

from: sonicdrift
date: 8th Jun 2008 08:24 (UTC)

I've just encountered it at work. So far it seems fine - except for when you click "discard" it gives you the the option to "send" exactly where I'd expect the "Confirm" button to be. One day I know its going to get me.

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Janet

from: j4
date: 3rd Jun 2008 17:35 (UTC)

*prays that the Roulette Wheel of Groupware which is currently spinning does not land on Lotus Notes*

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Its not so bad

from: anonymous
date: 4th Jun 2008 11:28 (UTC)

My company uses Notes, the newest version and I don't find it bad at all. I come from a MS shop and have used Outlook forever. I wasn't looking forward to the switch but after I opened my mind a bit, I adjusted fairly quickly and actually like it a bit better than Outlook. I've seen some very cool applications also.

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